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Rb_Tullamore-Dew
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« on: April 13, 2010, 05:51:21 AM »

http://wikileaks.org/    crazy
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2010, 06:48:00 AM »

There is so much that could be said about that video...I watched in disgust  crazy
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2010, 09:05:45 AM »

I can neither condemn or condone that video, armed men in a war zone are always suspect.
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2010, 10:19:19 AM »

seems armed with cameras is very dangerous
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2010, 10:39:56 AM »

If the guy was Legit he would have worn a Vest with a large "P" for press, running with men with RPG's and AK's makes him suspect. What his motives were, are unknown, may have been just a matter of being in the wrong place at the wrong time, if he had his "P" on the decision to fire would have been questioned.
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2010, 04:52:35 AM »

Other than that, you can´t find any inhuman and unnecessary cruel actions ?

I´m stunned about your callousness and political stupidity, m8.

This is how terrorists are made and even I would become one, in light of such pictures.
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2010, 06:02:42 AM »

I may be callous but I am hardly stupid about any F'n thing!!!!!!
Thats also how terroist die!
When did you go to work for Al Jerzerra?
What wolud you have done let em pop off that rpg on the next HumVee that comes along and then shoot paint balls at them till you recovered your dead and wounded?
Armed men in the streets are up to something, if the so called "Inocents" were inocent they would have not been in that group!
Its a war zone there bro, things like that will happen more than once.
Lets see you post a Allied Patrol being ambushed or a car bomb going off in a crowd of troops and civies.
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2010, 06:22:57 AM »

AND I THOUGHT THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT DIFFERS CHRISTIANS FROM ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS, WHAT DIFFERS THE GOOD FROM THE BAD AND WHAT DIFFERS YOUR (OUR) KIN SOLDIERS FROM TERRORISTS !!!


I CAN´T SEE A DIFFERENCE ANYMORE. CAN YOU ?
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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2010, 08:23:13 AM »

I see a huge difference, but I don't have to explain myself to you Kai, your Bias is yours and mine is mine.
I will say this, if a group of armed men wandered the streets here they would get the same treatment, no matter what their motives!
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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2010, 09:56:30 AM »

Not taking sides but---

I will say this, if a group of armed men wandered the streets here they would get the same treatment, no matter what their motives!

Give me a S&W 1911 PD straped to my hip and I would walk down any ally fearless!
I know its coboyesque, but I feel if we all packed and it showed, yes the crime rate would go down.

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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2010, 10:54:14 AM »

Yelling is an excellent debate tool, well done.
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Lotta self-help tapes out there. Got one called "How to Handle Disappointment." I got it home and the box was empty.
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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2010, 10:59:40 AM »

Hell of a difference between a RPG and a S+W 1911 PD bro.
What Kai saw as innocents I saw as armed terroist, lets leave it at that.
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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2010, 12:50:51 PM »

Read the comments here, you can see I am not alone in my thinking.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100413/pl_nm/us_iraq_usa_journalists

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« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2010, 12:55:35 AM »

I´m not alone too, John.


what a bunch of trigger happy murders. How can one joke about two children being in the middle of an engagment more like a slaughter. I dont know where they saw 5-6 with ak-47s or someone shooting at them they were just itching to kill.

And then how they joked about it. The United states is not in the interest of peace. They are war mongers. How many ¨ Insurgents ¨ were killed that were truely innocents. Sounds like the military needed a good insurgent body count to justify a shizzy war.

And we are wondering why the United States is loosing credibility in the world. Because the people whom control it are screaming peace but looking for war. I am ashamed of the American military. people going around saying that brave soldiers are losing their life for Freedom. My nuts. Looks like target practice to me. Thats why I got out of the Army and hightaled it out of America. I see where the country is heading, and its not up.
I saw first hand that Iraq was Bull funking shiz. If these pilots have families. I feel sorry for them to know that their husbands and fathers arent heroes but murders. what sleeze. I wish the worst for these sorry excuses of soldiers. You fight with honor. not this.

To those whom say that America is not a dictatorship. ask someone in this war zone. How would you feel if the Chinese showed up in the states and pushed you around told you what you were to do, And acted like they owned you. In your own land. And Americans wonder why there is an insurgency. Because we the soldiers over there are making insurgents out of people whom otherwise would not care to intervien. If someone came into your house and pushed you around enough eventually you would push back too. Its human nature that one can only take but so much.
American military and government will pay for their attrocities.



Any one who cannot tell an AK47 from a video camera, should not be a gunner of an attack chopper.



I watched the full video of this engagement on wikileaks & infowars. I must say, as a combat vet myself, I have never seen anything quite like this! I literally got sick to my stomach as I watched these cowboys shoot innocent people in a van trying to help the wounded. When they showed those innocent children shot up and the pilot comment, "that's what happens when you bring children to a battle", left me speechless!!!!!!!!!

It is no wonder that the rest of the world hates us, and I'm not quite sure I am proud to be an American any longer!
I served my country with honor, but there is no honor in what these cowards have done!

Typical primitive behaviour of US soldiers, like aggressive kids with boiling testosterone, using war accession to kill someone (anyone, doesn’t matter innocent or not).

And all this pathetic play with ‘God bless you’ etc. at home. Political manipulation. However, primitive soldiers are needed, who else would go on a war? Only heroes like this. Consequences? Responsibility? None.

also just saying how the soldier acts and talks is just unbelievably immature, Omg High score head shot woot 2 dead 10000 highscore I owned u fred...

Wow it almost sounds like kids playing Cod mod2 on real life. These soldiers are a shame, disgrace to u.s.a it is not defending or fighting bad guys, they are just in the army to randomly kill people are fun.



It´s exactly how I interpret the whole scenario and surely not because I want to.
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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2010, 01:56:14 AM »

Thats Kinda my point Kai, its a 2 sided coin bro.
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