UNFAIR ADVANTAGE

[H@wk]

How would you feel if certain few knew how to look into your cockpit and find out how fast your going, how much damage you have, your location or even to film your techniques on how you turn, dropping gears and flaps in sequence to make tighter turns in all the different planes you fly and mastered?

All the time you took to learn the characteristics of the planes in AA takes allot of time even if you have a mentor showing you the ropes but if you were able to see any of what you consider the best pilots cockpits while flying and film them in action would be an advantage for you, yes or no?

How would your team feel in competition if the opposing team could see in each of your teammates cockpits and use the information to have the edge and know who to go after, like in the KTF League knowing the location and status on your flag?

Would you say this would be an Unfair Advantage? Not an even playing field for all?

As human nature has it nothing can be kept a secret and if certain few know this and use this and not disclose this to the public would you be pissed knowing now that if your team was in a match and didn't know this secret was used against your team would you be disgusted?

Well now that I laid down the questions and about to open up a can of worms or a can of whoop @^^ I will now disclose what I just found out that is now being debated to either leave and disclose to the public or disable this feature from the game scripting because it can be used against all that fly and in competition.

I saw it typed in Teams room one night but didn't pay attention to it but now it's starting to spread and now I realize just what this typing was for and I found this out within the last couple of days, ok, so I'm a johny come lately.

I speak for myself not my team and I know for a fact that my team did not know about this but there is a way of finding out who has, the time and dates because it is in a log. When I and a few of my teammates woke up realizing what this meant we tried it and it works better then the old AA version.

OK, here goes, some of you know, allot don't and I believe all should know from the get go.

You have the ability to type a code and hit a F key, then scroll with the , . to see into anyone's cockpit that is in the room flying. You also can film any pilot and how they fly, know where they are and also can be used to your advantage in team competition.

It is now being discussed by the powers to be and decided on whether to be disabled, what is there to discuss, I feel it should be disabled immediately and the KTF league should be investigated on what teams had used it for there advantage.

Now I ask you, is this an UNFAIR ADVANTAGE?

[H@wk]

Now I'm told that they didn't need a hot head to disclose what I wrote above, lmao....

We owe it to each and everyone of us to make sure there is an even playing field for all, now if I'm marked then so be it, this chit made me sick about the game and no respect for the ones that knew about and used it against others and teams for there benefit.

Hope this chit don't ever happen again.

By the way, it has currently been disabled as I am told so you can all fly without feeling raped now.

[USHA_Kid]

I never knew of this until today.But it has been available for some time now.Del and Tank do have a fix for this feature.

There was a heck of a lot more you could do with this option than mentioned here,but I will not disclose what or how.

To those who used this function in matches,,,SHAME ON YOU.

Now I know why certain things happened in the game but I couldn't prove.
Now I know how they did it.

I'm just glad someone finally brought this out in the open so it can be fixed.

IMPORTANT:
If anyone who responds to this thread knows how to use this function.DO NOT

I repeat  DO NOT post how to do it in here.

YOU HAVE  BEEN WARNED

[Madman]

As for the KTF... Well Hawk.. What can i say?  We have some information and we are discussing what to do.
I don't agree it's cheating, because its a in-built feature.  However it being used but being kept quiet as the topic suggests 'an unfair advantage' is true.  Hopefully it can be switched off.  I fear that everyone will know this in a few days because people cannot keep mouths shut :)
As for proving it though Hawk.. How can you prove someone used it?  Found out yesterday, i agree though, whoever used it and kept it quiet is pretty sad, but good luck proving that one, unless anyone comes forward i can't see anything getting proved unfortunately.

[Firestorm]

I was in free for all yesterday and know there was a pilot in there using it.

Fire

[USHA_Kid]

I was in free for all yesterday and know there was a pilot in there using it. I knew this because of his open comms. If you would like his name please PM Kid.

Fire

Don't PM me.I won't give out names and cause a flame war.I can check the logs of the game and see who was talking about it.But at this point in time it's a mute point.

It was given out yesterday in open comms.

As stated before, it's being taken care of and won't be available much longer.

So before we get on a prove it band wagon,I'm closing this thread.I see no good coming from this.

[H@wk]

As for the KTF... Well Hawk.. What can i say?  We have some information and we are discussing what to do.
I don't agree it's cheating, because its a in-built feature.  However it being used but being kept quiet as the topic suggests 'an unfair advantage' is true.  Hopefully it can be switched off.  I fear that everyone will know this in a few days because people cannot keep mouths shut :)
As for proving it though Hawk.. How can you prove someone used it?  Found out yesterday, i agree though, whoever used it and kept it quiet is pretty sad, but good luck proving that one, unless anyone comes forward i can't see anything getting proved unfortunately.

When someone punches the code in I was told there is a log of who it was and when, would that not be proof?

I'm not looking to have a head on a platter, I'm glad if it gets fixed and done with and no more secrets.

Even playing field for all, I am also grateful we have this game to play and it's free to use but what's the sense if pilots knowingly do things to benefit themselves and hurt the rest, matter of time for those to be found.

[H@wk]

I was in free for all yesterday and know there was a pilot in there using it. I knew this because of his open comms. If you would like his name please PM Kid.

Fire

Don't PM me.I won't give out names and cause a flame war.I can check the logs of the game and see who was talking about it.But at this point in time it's a mute point.

It was given out yesterday in open comms.


As stated before, it's being taken care of and won't be available much longer.

So before we get on a prove it band wagon,I'm closing this thread.I see no good coming from this.

Kiddo,

No reason to close this thread, this is making the public aware of a problem to get fixed quicker.

There can be no finger pointing or flaming.

This could be a healthy discussion, don't you think? I do.

[Tbar]

Thanks Hawk.. this needed to be brought out in the open. Glad you had the guts to do it.

The "UNFAIR ADVANTAGE" is a CHEAT.

I hope the "Wall of Shame" reflects the names of those that did...

Time tells all.. eh Hawk.

[H@wk]

Time does tell all

Not looking for heads to roll, just a level playing field.

I do not wish to see another COD, that is why I no longer play it.

Just would like to see morals and honesty kick in not greed.

[Tbar]

ALL games have cheats :( 
You won't ever get around that.

HONOR/TRUST is what its all about... the honor to not cheat and/or use privileged information for your own gain or purpose.

I'm not looking for 'heads to roll' either.. but a Wall of Shame.. shame on you type of thing.. people should know who done it.

/tbar

[Deleriux]

I wont be sharing any infomation about the official position on this until a fix has been put in place.

For now all i'll really share is.

a) We are aware of it.
b) We are going to get it fixed.

I do have a more detailed analysis is in the pipeline and community leaders will inform everyone once we've fashioned out the formal position on the matter.

Of course - Im not in a position to share lots of details right now until we're confident we have it under control. I've no problems in discussing the issue although in the interests of fairness for now I'd suggest avoiding using it or explaining to others how to use it. At least till community leaders have worked out what they want to do about the feature itself.

[H@wk]

I wont be sharing any infomation about the official position on this until a fix has been put in place.

For now all i'll really share is.

a) We are aware of it.
b) We are going to get it fixed.

I do have a more detailed analysis is in the pipeline and community leaders will inform everyone once we've fashioned out the formal position on the matter.

Of course - Im not in a position to share lots of details right now until we're confident we have it under control. I've no problems in discussing the issue although in the interests of fairness for now I'd suggest avoiding using it or explaining to others how to use it. At least till community leaders have worked out what they want to do about the feature itself.

Thank You Del.,

And that's what it's all about, now they will do there work and let the communities know the progress.

No question on Del's integrity and he will let us know.

Salute

[shrapnel]

This issue is really quite simple. There is a way whereby any pilot can switch to the cockpit of any other plane in the arena and see speed, altitude and percentage damage etc.

When I say the issue is simple I mean that the problem does not lie with who has been using it...it is a feature available to anyone who knows the right sequence. The issue really is whether it should be publicized for everyone to take advantage of or whether the feature should be removed from the game.

I became aware of this feature yesterday, had it demonstrated to me and tried it out myself out of curiosity. I made my opinion on the matter clear to those who are in a position to deal with it and was assured that the administrators were now aware of it and were discussing whether to make the knowledge freely available or to remove it.
What was clear, at least to me, was that it could no longer be a secret because it would give an unfair advantage to the few who knew about it. I make no secret of the fact that I have discussed it with a couple of other people...secrecy is no longer an option. It has to be dealt with and a fair solution found.

I was content to leave this matter to the powers that be knowing they were dealing with it but neither do I see any harm in it becoming a public issue as it has in this forum.
Witch hunting for those who knew about it and who may have used it is not an option. It is simply now a matter of levelling the playing field.

[TS_Warrior]

Not cheating? LOL..You have to type in a code to use it. Thats called cheating. Its the same thing as a wall hack in FPS games. Shows were the opponent is at all times. Its called taking adv of the game that is classified as cheating.